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« Reply #16 on: September 12, 2023, 08:13:35 PM »
https://www.pdfdrive.com/japans-comfort-women-sexual-slavery-and-prostitution-during-world-war-ii-and-the-us-occupation-e196764828.html  Japan's comfort women : sexual slavery and prostitution during World War II and the US occupation

Thanks for posting this! Recently I found myself thinking again about the comfort women after seeing this summer's huge blockbuster movie Oppenheimer. Oppenheimer, the movie, is not really about sexual assault. However I saw a comment about the movie on another website--I've forgotten the link--that suggested the use of the atomic bomb against Japan was partly justified by Japan's behavior against the comfort women. The posting hinted that Japan was deemed a threat to use rape as a weapon not just against Chinese women--as in the Rape of Nanking--but also against white women. The hint was that whether Truman's reaction was racist or not, the rape of white women by the Japanese was a consideration in the decision to use the Bomb.

I hadn't previously realized that Japan had used white women as comfort women--mainly I had thought this was done against the Chinese against whom the Japanese seemed to bear a deep grudge. However the book above does note the use of white Dutch women in the then-Dutch East Indies (now Indonesia) as comfort women. The author, Yuki Tanaka, although himself Japanese does seem to consider it worth noting that these comfort women were white, drawing attention to it several times. Another irony possibly connecting this to the decision to use the Bomb is that Tanaka is a professor at Hiroshima University.
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« Reply #17 on: September 13, 2023, 05:48:37 PM »
Many Korean women were also used as comfort women.

I read a book a couple of years ago about Canadian and British POWS held by the Japanese during WW2. They were captured in the fall of Hong Kong. The guards at their POW camp would regularly taunt the prisoners that Japan was going to invade Canada one day and all the men would be enslaved, and "we will rape your wives and daughters."

Rape culture was very pervasive in the Japanese military and their code of "Bushido." Vanquished enemies had no honor, and their women were considered property of the victors to be used as they pleased.
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« Reply #18 on: September 14, 2023, 01:04:57 PM »
Many Korean women were also used as comfort women.

True. Because Korea had been under Japanese control for 1-2 generations prior to the war, I tend not to think of Korea when I think of Japanese military aggression during the war itself. From a rape and sexual slavery context, of course, the Korean women were just as much victims as anyone else. Indeed, it was probably easier for the Japanese to implement a "comfort women" system in Korea than a lot of other places since they'd already had effective control of the country for many decades.

I read a book a couple of years ago about Canadian and British POWS held by the Japanese during WW2. They were captured in the fall of Hong Kong. The guards at their POW camp would regularly taunt the prisoners that Japan was going to invade Canada one day and all the men would be enslaved, and "we will rape your wives and daughters."

Of course, this type of threat is a form of psychological rape itself. The threat would have been somewhat stronger since Japan had already made good on this threat in multiple countries, even if they lacked the military resources to successfully invade all the countries they might have wanted to.
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Re: Historical Source Material Thread
« Reply #20 on: May 18, 2024, 03:31:25 AM »
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« Reply #21 on: May 18, 2024, 07:39:33 AM »

Thanks for this! Rape scenarios involving students are always especially a turn on for me, although this one hits especially close to home as this article was written during the time when I was myself a student. As a side note, I guess I'm now old enough that my youth is now considered "historical material".

It does seem to me that attitudes to rape were different in the 1970's and 1980's compared to today. For example, this article mentions one incident where the only physically threatening thing the guys did was block the door--but this was enough to make her fear the consequences of refusing. Of course the guys didn't consider that to be rape--and a lot of the women didn't think so either at least in that era.

In a lot of old movies, rape-like behavior seems to be tolerated without being classified as rape. For example, in the movie Rocky, which won Best Picture in 1976, there is a scene where Rocky physically blocks the door, preventing Adrian from leaving. This is not so different from the frat party scenario in the article above, and Rocky, as a heavyweight boxing contender, would have been as physically imposing as two or three ordinary frat guys. Yet people in 1976 seemed to consider this to be normal behavior.

Another example, from a different kind of movie, is the movie Taboo from 1980. The 'Taboo' in the title refers to the taboo sexual relationship depicted in the movie between the mother (Barbara/Kay Parker) and the son (Paul/Mike Ranger). For me, however, more disturbing than the incest are the sex crimes that both Barbara and Paul perpetrate against each other. Paul spies on Barbara in the nude without her knowledge or consent. Later, Barbara rapes Paul by initiating sexual contact while he is asleep and unable to consent. The fact that it is rape is underscored by the fact that when Paul does wake up, he does briefly say 'no' (making it rape at that point) before then apparently consenting. Everyone focuses on the incest in the movie, but there are other things in the behavior of both Paul and Barbara that are disturbing when looked at from the perspective of sexual assault. The incest aside, the movie somehow tries to convey the message that spying on a potential partner in the nude without their consent, or initiating sexual contact with a nonconsenting sleeping partner, are viable ways to initiate a sexual relationship.

Again--thanks for the article--my main point being that I think attitudes have changed a lot, at least on the surface, since that article was written.

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Re: Historical Source Material Thread
« Reply #22 on: May 18, 2024, 07:50:14 AM »
This simple quote got me started on "Battle Flame In Korea"...

"In January 1951, the combined Chinese and North Korean forces pushed United Nations forces back below the 38th parallel..."

https://www.history.navy.mil/our-collections/art/travelling-exhibits/remembering-the-forgotten-war-korea-1950-1953.html

And this is the map I used for January 1951, just to know where a convoy with nurses could have been attacked by enemy forces pushing past the ROK lines... http://www.emersonkent.com/map_archive/korean_war_jan_1951.htm
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« Reply #23 on: May 18, 2024, 08:07:02 AM »
Here, a gem I drew from when writing my stories around Congo's independence in 1960... https://arsof-history.org/articles/v14n1_congo_page_1.html

There's no mention of rapes, but when you get expressions such as "violent attacks on white Europeans", then scenes of gang-rapes aren't too far-fetched.

"In the wake of independence from Belgium on 30 June 1960, law and order collapsed in the Democratic Republic of the Congo."

"The U.S. News & World Report correspondent on the scene, David Reed, described the situation: “When the blacks took over from the Belgian colonial administrators, they were far from ready to govern. African officials suddenly were big shots, rode around in fancy cars, and took over elaborate homes. In short, they replaced a white aristocracy with a black aristocracy. When the African soldiers of the Belgian-officered Force Publique saw what was happening, they wanted their share. The Premier (Patrice Lumumba) did not deliver his pre-independence promises. The troops went crazy and turned on whites to vent their frustration and rage.”"

"Lawlessness escalated to violent attacks on white Europeans everywhere except in the mineral-rich Katanga and Kasai provinces. As Force Publique armories were pillaged, tribal groups brandishing automatic weapons ruled indiscriminately. Flemish speakers were targeted."

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« Reply #24 on: May 18, 2024, 08:24:51 AM »
And this is an absolute gem for a gang-rape scenario of noble maidens by commoners...

The accompanying text is in French. Here's a loose translation.
1358. The Parisian townsfolks did the same as the peasants in the countryside. They stormed the royal palace, assassinated the provosts and forced the dauphin to wear the red-and-blue hat matching the colors of Paris.

From there, it's easy to picture scenes of looting, killing and rape.


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