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UncleWayne
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Ages of characters in stories.
« on: July 19, 2019, 04:56:24 AM »
What ages can the characters be in the stories I write.

I found the answer to my question in this post.
http://ravishu.com/forums/index.php?topic=3366.0
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Re: Ages of characters in stories.
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2020, 04:27:37 PM »
Yes, it is legal, in the United States, to depict in written fiction, underage sex and adults having sex with underage partners. You should post of it in the LOLICON section or post a warning at the beginning of the story. I post my violent stories involving underage in Extreme and don't always remember to post a warning.
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« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2021, 10:13:33 PM »
Do you know what the law is in Canada? The sites are just not as clear as I'd like for the literary aspect.
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Re: Ages of characters in stories.
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2021, 10:51:51 AM »
Age of consent is eighteen but a sixteen year old can with parental consent can have sex with someone on up to four years older than them!

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« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2021, 12:53:48 PM »
I think he meant laws regarding fiction :)

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« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2021, 02:17:47 PM »
I think he meant laws regarding fiction :)

Thanks grumpy, yes. Lol
I know the consent laws, I practiced social work for a time but the literary aspect is.. Grey?
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« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2021, 04:28:15 PM »
Do you know what the law is in Canada? The sites are just not as clear as I'd like for the literary aspect.

After an extensive search I have no clear answer to your question. This article is as close as I can come to answer, https://sundial.csun.edu/45903/opinions/distinguishing-between-child-abuse-and-artistic-license/ to sum it up written word doesn't appear to be forbidden, while images (even cartoon images) of underage is verboten.
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Re: Ages of characters in stories.
« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2021, 05:15:32 PM »
The problem is that they can fall afoul of obscenity laws, which even in the U.S. are intentionally vague.

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« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2021, 05:39:06 PM »
The laws are...strange everywhere, even in Australia. Cases do pop up which test the law (I have heard of one here where he actually got off--pun not intended--on appeal). For now, the law where the servers are located allows this kind of content, and that's the part that currently matters.
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« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2021, 06:31:25 PM »
The laws are...strange everywhere, even in Australia. Cases do pop up which test the law (I have heard of one here where he actually got off--pun not intended--on appeal). For now, the law where the servers are located allows this kind of content, and that's the part that currently matters.

Err.. Not necessarily? Consuming illegal content is still against the law even if said content isn't illegal where the server is hosted. Let's take the "loli images" on this board for example. You can most definitely be prosecuted for viewing those if you're in Australia, but the host might be completely fine if it's in the US.

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« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2021, 12:05:43 AM »
Do you know what the law is in Canada? The sites are just not as clear as I'd like for the literary aspect.

After an extensive search I have no clear answer to your question. This article is as close as I can come to answer, https://sundial.csun.edu/45903/opinions/distinguishing-between-child-abuse-and-artistic-license/ to sum it up written word doesn't appear to be forbidden, while images (even cartoon images) of underage is verboten.

I've also been searching, and I think I finally found accurate information. The following link not only contains all the info on potential charges regarding Canadian underage offender laws, but also outlines potential circumstances, and even applicable defences if you ARE changed. Because honestly from what I've seen. Canada is just dickish about it any depiction of a human, fictional or otherwise, they're still considered a "person" and therefore, I mean this as a pun as well as literally, Rule 34 applies. If your get my drift.
Honestly it seems like if 8 made a few stick figures and referred to them as 10 year old and drew them fucking, that's child pornography. Literally. It's the idea they are penalizing. The concept of "making it seem okay".
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Re: Ages of characters in stories.
« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2021, 12:26:34 AM »
Do you know what the law is in Canada? The sites are just not as clear as I'd like for the literary aspect.

After an extensive search I have no clear answer to your question. This article is as close as I can come to answer, https://sundial.csun.edu/45903/opinions/distinguishing-between-child-abuse-and-artistic-license/ to sum it up written word doesn't appear to be forbidden, while images (even cartoon images) of underage is verboten.

I've also been searching, and I think I finally found accurate information. The following link not only contains all the info on potential charges regarding Canadian underage offender laws, but also outlines potential circumstances, and even applicable defences if you ARE changed. Because honestly from what I've seen. Canada is just dickish about it any depiction of a human, fictional or otherwise, they're still considered a "person" and therefore, I mean this as a pun as well as literally, Rule 34 applies. If your get my drift.
Honestly it seems like if 8 made a few stick figures and referred to them as 10 year old and drew them fucking, that's child pornography. Literally. It's the idea they are penalizing. The concept of "making it seem okay".
Sigh.

I mean... media of all kind, porn included, does normalize ideas.

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Re: Ages of characters in stories.
« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2021, 06:15:47 AM »
There is a huge controversy in Canada when it comes to underage sex depiction. The paper here -- https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/yvan-godbout-acquitted-1.5741240 -- is about a fiction writer who had been acquitted of a child pornography count.

The judge found that the law casts too wide a net...
"On Thursday, Quebec Superior Court Justice Marc-Andre Blanchard ruled that certain articles of Canada's child pornography laws cast too wide a net, targeting works of literature that don't endorse or promote pedophilia."
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"By that definition, the judge noted, some victims of sexual assault could not legally speak out about their experiences.
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Blanchard said the expanded law effectively rendered illegal an overly wide swath of literature, unduly limiting freedom of expression."



In order words, the law changed to such an extent in 2005 that it is now conflicting with freedom of expression. Accessing child pornography is illegal if you are in Canada. However, if we're talking about works of fiction, there is a definite grey area that is starting to gain traction in the caselaw.

In my opinion, getting prosecuted in Canada for posting/reading stories of FICTION involving underage rape on RU is very unlikely.