[technodivinitas]

I'm not going to post a poll- I'm fairly certain I already know how most of you would vote. Still, I wanted to offer some thoughts on my (probably less popular) preferences here, and see if I couldn't stir up some interesting dialogue on the subject!

Ain't nothin' like the real thing, baby- that's what they say. In the flesh, skin to skin, lips to cock, cock to cunt... Real meat's the best meat. Roleplaying a rape with a lover face to face has got to be the best of both worlds, right?

But I disagree.  It's not that my fantasies are so dark or bad that I've never found a lover who shares them. MOST of my lovers have tastes at least as dark as my own. And it's not that I've never roleplayed with a bag over my head and a cock up my... well. I have. I absolutely have. And it's delicious. BUT... Since I've become the virtual girl, I've come to understand many of the limitations with which flesh burdens us. In real life, in the flesh, even roleplay can be quite dangerous, both physically, and legally. A clumsy hand, an over-zealous choke hold, or an indecisive partner could lead to injury, prison, death.  And some things simply can't happen in the real world.

In the virtual, in cyberplay, you can go wherever you like. You can be as extreme as you please. And your partner can as well. There's no need to steer on the safe side. And there's no need to worry that you're just not limber enough, that your cock's not big or hard enough, that the condom might slip- or your partner might stealth you and give you a disease that might kill you. In the virtual world, there are no latex allergies. In the virtual world, ropeburns and bleeding lash wounds heal with a thought.  In the virtual world, we don't get "too old for that shit", and an age gap of 20 or 30 years means nothing to a meeting of like minds.
Virtually, you are limited only by your imagination, and your partner's. 

I won't say absolutely that virtual play is entirely better in all ways than the "real thing, baby", but I will suggest that there are countless advantages that balance the scales.

I bet I'm alllll alone out here though, dancing in the aether, and reveling in the benefits of matrix over meat.

[Thelurker]

I will agree that in the virtual world the possibilities are endless. I love how dark I can get and as long as the other person on the other screen shares my interests then we'll definitely be having an amazing time. However having said that, I still need someone to touch, and feel. I guess you can call me old fashioned, and I didn't think I'd ever say that when it came to sex lol. However if my partner was willing to rp with me in a virtual world and be as dark and filthy as possible and then fuck to it afterwords that would definitely make her a keeper.

[SoftGameHunter]

My stories are my outlet from the real world. They go on in my head regardless of whether I get them on the screen, but writing them out allows them to progress and develop. And oh what a result I get.

That said, I also have a real world wife who shares kinky fantasies and requests that I tie her up and do things to her if I go too long without initiating it. Our role play usually devolves into giggles, largely because I can't resist the urge to ham it up. I've tried to get her onto this site, but I don't know if she'll join or not. She doesn't seem to like going as dark as some of us do.

Which is better? There's no way to even frame that question meaningfully, but if I had to make an either/or choice, I'd certainly keep the wife and ditch the virtual fantasies. The advantages of virtual play (or just writing, in my case) may be vastly more in number, but they all only tickle a small part of my psyche. The eroticism of a live partner is much broader and more satisfying. (And that's not even getting to the part where she puts up with my crap and cares enough to make me eat veggies.)

I'm not putting down your ideas, technodivinitas. I like this thread already. But you wanted a discussion, and that's my opening salvo.

[Willowy]

I'm not sure I can choose between them.

Because Divine's right. Virtual reality is freeing. I can't walk up to... say... Taylor Swift, and shove a strap-on up her ass in reality. But if I have a willing roleplay partner, suddenly, that fantasy is opened to me, and I can explore a sweet night of raping Taylor Swift.

Sure, that fantasy might be better explored in reality because of having an actual human to fuck... but... I don't think that I'm interested in going through the legal channels post Taylor Swift ass rape.

I want both. I need both. Because some dark places can only be explored in the realm of a cyber session, where it's all text, and no one's really getting hurt, whether I slash a throat open, fuck a tight celebrity ass, or whatever.

It's words. Words aren't reality.

[technodivinitas]

Not to worry, Soft- I knew the job was risky when I took it.   I honestly don't expect that many folks would actually prefer pixels to meat. Thankfully, you don't have to choose.

Willowy- I'm not sure whether that was a thumbs up or down, there. *LOL*  I mean, technically speaking, if you've got a partner willing to let you call her Taylor while you ream her in the ass, then you could rp that in the flesh, if you wanted to. But personally, I've found that some things in real life actually detract from the suspension of disbelief. If your play partner was, say, a 45 year old  brunette, more curvey than slim, then calling her Taylor while you close your eyes and hump away is probably going to be a much harder sell to your own imagination.

I suppose some other traits that allow me to (mostly) actually prefer the virtual are a taste for near-endless edging, and the knowledge that nobody can make me cum as hard as I can. Let's hear some praise for masturbation, too, while we're on the subject!  WAYYYY too often, it's treated as inferior, when hey- who knows your own bits better than you do? Though I'll admit- those moments when someone else takes the reins, and does a brilliant job are pretty fucking magical. I do miss that.

[Willowy]

...masturbation is indeed excellent, although my cunt has taken out a restraining order against my left hand. It may be a teensy bit bored with it. >.>

I suppose it really wasn't either thums up or down, Divine... I mean, an offline partner is fun because sometimes goddamnit I need to cum from someone else's stimulating me. But an offline partner isn't generally someone I can say to "please, I really wanna rape Taylor Swift's ass and break every last one of her fingers..." So I like to seek out an online partner who can give me that or whatever dark thought it is. Others here may prefer one over the other... I'm honestly not sure I can. For me, both provide things that are very important to me.

As for the suspension of disbelief... quite aside from the lack of such funds of late, I've been considering trying to find a sex worker who doesn't mind girls, and who will pretend to be an ex-girlfriend I keep thinking about. And of course, I need her looks to be somewhat approaching the ex, or it just... yeah.

Ain't nothin' like the real thing, baby- that's what they say. In the flesh, skin to skin, lips to cock, cock to cunt.

Not yet, but synthetic is at least as fetishized as a little of the old in out, in out.  We've been doing it for hundreds of thousands of years.  Bunnies, and (Somewhat differently) flutterbyes before that, and flowers (Yes, those are genitalia) before that...

Can we do better?  Depends on what you call better.  I like the Bloob (Fluid filled balloons, of various types) glass beads, sounding rods, soldering irons, and cybians are kind of fun.  Manual restraint is cool too, but I'd call bondage on up to suspension an improvement from there...

Nature was a Start.  We're not natural creatures any more, and haven't been for hundreds of thousands of years.

[Lois]

I do the RP thing all the time with my master, but we don't get too extreme. 

However, my orgasms are nearly always more intense when I masterbate.

I am exchanging stories/fantasies with another member here...very dark and extreme...no limits of any type.
It is so exiting and arousing and fun   and helps a lot to release a lot of tension, fatigue, etc... to  masturbate afterwards having in mind all the images built in during the exchange is very satisfying...it is just a 'different orgasm'...
I do not think the two can compare...sometime is Visceral sometime is Virtual...but if I have to choose then  the virtual - for me -  is the one that has a little edge...
 
Sam