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Title: there is a difference!
Post by: KrysG84 on September 26, 2017, 11:04:25 PM
So I'm coming from a background of having been a glamour model for a good few years. Now let me just point out, there is a difference between a glamour model and a porn star. Sure u do have ladies who do both, but there r some like myself who has never stepped into hardcore -or softcore for that matter, girl boy pornography. Furthermore there r other glamour models who do solo material or material like foot fetishes and non sexual BDSM work :D
I am sick and tired however, of people clumping all models in the industry together which is sooooo inaccurate!
Title: Re: there is a difference!
Post by: Badman on September 27, 2017, 12:09:11 AM
.... there is a difference between a glamour model and a porn star. Sure u do have ladies who do both, but there r some like myself who has never stepped into hardcore -or softcore for that matter, girl boy pornography. Furthermore there r other glamour models who do solo material or material like foot fetishes and non sexual BDSM work :D
I am sick and tired however, of people clumping all models in the industry together which is sooooo inaccurate!

So not all Glamour models are Porn models (stars) and not all Porn models (stars) are Glamour models.
But SOME Glamour models ARE Porn models (stars) but NOT ALL and definitely NOT YOU.
Good to know.
Title: Re: there is a difference!
Post by: KrysG84 on September 27, 2017, 08:19:45 AM
Lol ummm my point I suppose is, most people automatically assume all models in the industry r the same, and we r not :) And yes I am most definately not a pornstar! Oh and furthermore, another common assumption that is forwarded is that all models r easy as in promiscuous or have a drink and or drugs problem- again most certainly not true  :emot_kiss.gif: x
Title: Re: there is a difference!
Post by: Badman on September 27, 2017, 08:54:29 AM
I'm afraid the only models I know are either Business, Mathematical or Airfix.


Title: Re: there is a difference!
Post by: gscmar64 on September 27, 2017, 11:08:30 AM
So MC1973 can I assume that being from the U.K. that when you reference Glamour modelling one would include Page three models in The Sun?

Already established that you not Sporty Spice, perchance were you Mel C. of page three fame! (Fingers crossed,  :emot_thedrool.gif: :emot_thedrool.gif: :emot_thedrool.gif: :emot_thedrool.gif: :emot_thedrool.gif: :emot_thedrool.gif: :emot_thedrool.gif: :emot_thedrool.gif: :emot_thedrool.gif: :emot_thedrool.gif: :emot_thedrool.gif:)
Title: Re: there is a difference!
Post by: KrysG84 on September 27, 2017, 11:24:33 AM
Lol Badman!
I have been on Page3 before...a long time ago  :emot_kiss.gif: x
Title: Re: there is a difference!
Post by: gscmar64 on September 27, 2017, 11:34:52 AM
Lol Badman!
I have been on Page3 before...a long time ago  :emot_kiss.gif: x

Not that long that ago for someone with a decent memory for Gorgeous ladies!
Title: Re: there is a difference!
Post by: Badman on September 27, 2017, 11:41:10 AM
Lol Badman!
I have been on Page3 before...a long time ago  :emot_kiss.gif: x

To be totally fair, credit, where it is due >, > the Page 3 reference came from gscmar64 not me. [Badman]
Title: Re: there is a difference!
Post by: KrysG84 on September 27, 2017, 12:04:27 PM
Lol I know that Badman, the top lol reply was for u! :D
Title: Re: there is a difference!
Post by: darklord on September 28, 2017, 01:12:18 PM
Well stated. Yes a world of difference I am sure.   The fact that you existed as a glamor model can only mean you are a hottie.   
Title: Re: there is a difference!
Post by: KrysG84 on September 28, 2017, 01:37:40 PM
Lol I'm an average hottie! :D
Title: Re: there is a difference!
Post by: Psiberzerker on September 28, 2017, 01:41:55 PM
most people automatically assume all models in the industry r the same,

Not even the same industries.  Fashion modeling is not porn.  (Also models.)  "Glammour" means different things in different places, but it's basically pinup.  There's also Fetish modeling, which isn't quite porn, but getting closer to the end of that spectrum.
Title: Re: there is a difference!
Post by: Lois on October 05, 2017, 01:13:10 AM
But do all models and actresses encounter the "casting couch?"
Title: Re: there is a difference!
Post by: Badman on October 05, 2017, 01:33:22 AM
most people automatically assume all models in the industry r the same,

Not even the same industries.  Fashion modeling is not porn.  (Also models.)  "Glammour" means different things in different places, but it's basically pinup.  There's also Fetish modeling, which isn't quite porn, but getting closer to the end of that spectrum.

Shades of grey on a scale. I imagine in some countries even 'fashion modelling' is seen as lewd and obscene and will land you in rpsion or worse.
Equally there is plastic porn that is so beyond realistic, that it becomes almost a satire and in no way erotic. 
Title: Re: there is a difference!
Post by: KrysG84 on October 05, 2017, 02:22:54 AM
I've not done shall we say 'public' modelling for quite awhile. Nowadays I do kinda more 'private' shoots and now and again for amateur togs club shoots.
Back in my day there has been the odd tog who tries on the casting couch routine. Think it was more prominent before the 90s. It does still happen nowadays but I'd say its usually harder for the togs to get away with it. Actually, I'd say its increasing more in the foreign private market which thankfully I rarely ever do, not only due to the overtly amorous overtures but also their production values can b quite poor. Nowadays I think there's also far more support to those in the profession, esp when we start blacklisting the unprofessional and dubious togs and companies amongst ourselves. A lot of British models I know they're rather clued up. Furthermore there is now more agencies run by female models for models. xx
Title: Re: there is a difference!
Post by: Psiberzerker on October 05, 2017, 03:23:55 PM
Shades of grey on a scale.
Yes, hence the word Spectrum.  However, shades of grey blend together, whereas a spectrum is broken up in bands.
(http://www.columbia.edu/~vjd1/sun_spectrum_1.jpg)
For example, a stripper can't just put on High Fasion clothes, and walk the runway that way, any more than a Glammour model knows how to work the pole.  (Unless she used to dance to get through college.)

Or in other words, IndustrieS.  Plural, not the same fucking thing.

The image you have in your head is Black and White.  Not colour, nor color.  No hue, tone, saturation, nor brightness to it, just approximately 50 shades of it.  Now, you're telling 2 people who work in/with those industries it's basically all the same.

It isn't.  There is a difference.  Several, in fact.
Title: Re: there is a difference!
Post by: Badman on October 06, 2017, 01:47:14 AM
You are right I am wrong. Not all models are whores and not all whores are models.
Title: Re: there is a difference!
Post by: Psiberzerker on October 06, 2017, 06:33:21 AM
Actual sex work is varied too, but there you have your greyscale.  With the exception of Specialties (Like BDSM) there isn't a whole lot of training, nor prerequisites to having sex for money.  Can you have sex?  Do you want to make some money?  That's about it.

So there the difference (Often translates to Price) is a matter of Setting.  Your street hooker is not going to charge as much as the luxury hotel on-call-girl.  However an irony in the industry is that a girl's prices can actually go down as she gets older, more experienced, but less attractive.  (Not always, nor even usually the case, but I have seen it happen.)

Please don't verbally abuse our members, by passive aggressively calling them whores.  It's rude.
Title: Re: there is a difference!
Post by: Badman on October 06, 2017, 08:15:28 AM
You are right I am wrong. Not all models are whores and not all whores are models.

I assume 'whore' is offensive whereas sex workers/prostitutes/hooker/street hooker/on-call-girls is not?

You are right, I am rude. I will rephrase... 

Not all cartoons characters are animals and not animals are cartoon characters.

Is that different to;

Some cartoon characters are animals and some animals are cartoon characters

Is it true or is it false?

Title: Re: there is a difference!
Post by: Psiberzerker on October 06, 2017, 12:04:47 PM
I assume 'whore' is offensive whereas sex workers/prostitutes/hooker/street hooker/on-call-girls is not?

It depends on the sex worker.  Here's where we get into more detail on what exactly the differences are:

"Sex work" is the whole shebang.  Pornography, hooking, stripping, dominatrix, and tea-room Huslting.  Sex+Work=Sex Work.  That's the Spectrum across the entire industry.

Prostitution is sex for money.  Specifically a consensual exchange of goods for services rendered, whether it's a hand job, or contract rap fantasy reinactiment in your personal dungeon.  Let's call that one end of the spectrum.

"Hooking" originally referred to turnpike prostitution.  "You need a ride?"  ;)  It also includes the Street walker, though can be a catch-all term for hit it and quit it 1 time deals.  She looks nice, "How much" entry level prostitution.

"Strawberry" is one you didn't specifically mention, but is an addict offering sex for drugs.  "Suck yo dick fo a rock!"

Call Girl is getting nebulous, but generally means "We deliver."  Originally, yes.  If you discretely asked the manager at a nice enough hotel, he probably had some numbers, but that was back in the days of Ma Bell.  Nowadays, they tend to use Craigslist, but at this level of the profession (Hookers are considered Amateurs) you can expect such things as TGFE, Fantasy, and a regular appointment.  "Same time next week, John?"  

Of course a Pimp/Madam is a Management position.

Technically a Whore works in a Whorehouse, however it's been used as an insult as well.  Pretty much since the term replaced Harlot in the lexicon.  The subdle difference is a Call Girl is order yout, while a Whore House is more like a Restraunt.  There you can also get TGFE, and they often have Fantasy rooms if you have something specific in mind.

However, it's always an insult when you equate stripping, porn stars, and modeling to Whoring.  It's not even the same industry.  Modeling isn't even sex work, though some models may also do sex work (Like pornography) on the side.  Much like a mechanic can fix your porch if he needs the money.