There are a lot of mixed feelings about the Stanford Rape case with Brock Turner. I personally feel that if someone is not capable of saying yes or no, with sound mind and body-- it is wrong to have your way with them. And even if you did make a bad judgement by going out and getting drunk, a rapist should still go to jail.
BUT I have brought up this discussion with several men. One particular man's response (a coworker of mine) really caught my attention and I wanted to get other people's opinions on his statement. Here is what he had to say (I actually recorded him, but I won't put the recording here, I just typed all his words up). I wonder how many people there are out there who share his opinion:
"The Stanford case... That's not rape. The girl got drunk and snuck out back with that guy. And here is something nobody wants to talk about. Something that makes me think that girl is full of SHIT and she's just embarrassed because she was cheating on her boyfriend when she was drunk: She is saying she is a RAPE VICTIM and Brock sexually assaulted her while she was passed out. First of all, sticking your fingers in, that's not rape. That's just fingering. Unwanted fingering. But still, just fingering. Second, stop and ask yourself how she ended up outside alone with this guy, behind a dumpster? Seriously, how did that happen? Ok, so in the very end, she passed out. But again, how did she get out there alone with him? She is claiming that he drug her off out there when he saw her drunk. Oh, ok. Right. How's that? If that girl didn't pass out on the floor inside the dorm, in front of everyone in the middle of the party... If the whole party didn't see Brock drag her limp body out of the room, down the hall and out the door-- then the only way she could have ended up out there alone with him, is if she WALKED out of the building with him, and even walked back behind the dumpster with him-- willingly. So... Just think about that for a minute. Forget being politically correct. Forget everything in the media. And THINK about how she got there. When you do that, you will suddenly realize that she is not as innocent, or as loyal to her boyfriend as she claims to be. Yeah, ok, maybe she passed out later and Brock just kept on doing what he was doing... But she still went out there with him. I think she knows that. I think that when 2 people are slobbering drunk and fooling around, they don't think about the fact that a dumpster is not romantic. They're just going wherever its dark, and nobody's around, so they can be alone. So unfortunately once she gets there, she passes out and Brock just keeps going. Then she wakes up all dirty with a police officer TELLING HER she was raped-- and that freaked her out. But I think she was just so terrified of losing her boyfriend, that in the end, she decided t go along with the whole rape thing. But you know what? If you're gonna get drunk with horny guys and go off alone with them, if you're gonna be stupid like that, then don't complain about what happens to you. Anyone over the age for puberty, knows that when you get drunk with a horny guy, there's a 98% chance he's gonna be trying to fuck you. Now she's a grown woman. She's not 4 years old. She's not even a virgin. She knows all this soooooooo well. Everybody knows this. So why are we all acting so shocked that a horny guy tried to fuck a girl, when they are both drunk?"
Thoughts?