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jschein
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The Men's Movement and Ravishu
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What are your opinions of the men's movement? I'm specifically referring to the sexualist wing that bases itself on pick-up artist seduction game, human biodiversirty darwinism. How do you think it relates to ravishu?
They discuss seduction in the same terms of domination and submission that rape is discussed here.
These 2 blogs r good examples.
http://www.the-spearhead.com/
http://roissy.wordpress.com/
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.tasteless/msg/e2a88d7fbb35294f?hl=en
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Re: The Men's Movement and Ravishu
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I know enough about usenet to not take anything posted onto alt.tasteless to heart.
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Hmmmm. A Usenet rant and a couple of blogs. I consider bloggers to be the 'infinite number of monkeys', and I've yet to see 'em come close to producing anything of the quality of Shakespeare. Most of 'em are bored assholes with Internet access. Ho, hum.
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All women are brainless cunts who, if left to their own designs, would make this planet as uninhabitable. We may as well let cute little bunny rabbits run amok without the benefit of predatory thinning. For this reason, all cunts must be subjugated and live forever "in their place."
I don't need to abuse my mind by reading any more of this dipshit, thanks. I'm pretty sure I see where he's going with this whole diatribe, and I'd rather have bleeding hemorrhoids than put myself through the pain of digesting his crap. He's just another fucking nut with Internet access.
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I think Raymond Pist is behind it all.
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So much oppression in our culture is based on shame about sex: the oppression of women, of cultural minorities, oppression in the name of the (presumably asexual) family, oppression of sexual minorities. We are all oppressed. We have all been taught, one way or another, that our desires, our bodies, our sexualities, are shameful. What better way to defeat oppression than to get together in communities and celebrate the wonders of sex?
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Though
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of that guy's rant might be useful in a play scene, that's about all I see that it's good for... humiliation.
He has some SERIOUS issues that I hope he's resolved since 1999 when that Usenet post was written. Dude, seek professional help!
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Quote from: Emily on November 05, 2009, 02:17:24 AM
I think Raymond Pist is behind it all.
The ACTUAL Men's Movement doesn't resort to name calling nor to ranting about how women should be barefoot and preggers. But we WOULD appreciate equal rights.
(For examples of that, I would refer anyone interested to revisit my "Men's Bill of Rights" post, reprinted below for your convenience.)
--Ray
MEN'S BILL OF RIGHTS
HEALTH AND AGING.
1. Ensure that health insurance charges for men are proportional to the health benefits received by men (who now pay most of medical costs but who now receive only about 25% of medical treatment.)
2. Lower men's currently disproportional share of Social Security taxes to be proportional with the expected benefits that men receive. Men now pay 80% of social security taxes and receive 20% of benefits.
3. Recognize that The current imbalance in life expectancy of men is a direct reflection of the sum of all the ways that the culture discriminates against men
WORKPLACE
1. Repeal so-called "affirmative action" laws. (This will have the added benefit of ending anti-white discrimination, as well as anti-male.)
2. End the hostile work environments for men created by so-called "sexual harassment" laws. Anyone who feels they are being harassed in any way has always had the right to quit, and find a different job. Women don't deserve extra protection because they are "sensitive".
3. End "equal pay for equal work" initiatives, in recognition that women have NOT lived up to the "equal work" part of the bargain. Men do dirtier jobs, harder jobs, and more hazardous jobs. Indeed, men account for over 90% of all work-related deaths.
SOCIAL SITUATIONS
1. End sexist law that currently prohibits men-only gyms, stores, clubs, etc., but permits women-only places of those kinds.
2. End unequal laws, codes and architectural standards requiring more plentiful and better-furnished toilet rooms for women than men in public buildings. Provide public facilities for men equal to those provided for women.
CUSTODIAL ISSUES.
1. Require that anyone delivering a baby has authorization from BOTH PARENTS. No one should be forced to be a parent if they do not wish to. Regrettably, abortion must be a viable option when other methods of birth-control fail or are not used. Women must not be allowed to trap men into financing her maternal urges.
2. Provide DNA testing of every child at birth before a man's name as the father goes onto the certificate of birth. Every man has a right to know for sure that the child he supports is actually his.
3. Eliminate the need for "child support" by granting custody to the parent who is most able to financially support the child.
4. End alimony, AKA "spousal support".
SCHOOLING
1. End current systematic discrimination against boys in public school enrollment, discipline, and advancement.
2. Make schools safe for male children's natural rambunctiousness.
3. Provide class and educational situations that allow movement, exercise, excitement and other natural boyish behavior.
4. End discriminatory punishment of boys in schools for boyish behavior. End all discriminatory corporal punishment of boys.
5. Provide boys with active (not passive, such as TV) games in preschool, in public schools, and after school.
6. End the massive drugging of boys who won't sit still in long boring female-structured classes. End the "Ritalin kid" drugging of normal boys. Being an active boy does not make a child psychotic, disturbed or "hyperactive."
7. Strive to provide an equal number of male teachers in schools for role models and male guidance. Restructure educational recruiting practices and prejudicial accusations of men who teach to encourage more men to be teachers of our children.
8. Repeal Title IX of the Civil Rights Act, and simply admit that boys like sports more than girls do.
THE MILITARY
1. Require equal obligation for military service. Women must be equally subject to the draft and military service, Including combat
CRIME AND PUNISHMENT: Restoring equal justice.
1. Equally prosecute and sentence both women AND men where a woman and man perpetrated the crime as partners. End systematic plea bargaining and witness exclusion now used to exempt women who are partners in crime.
2. End so called "rape shield" laws that take away the fundamental and constitutional right of American citizens to confront and question witnesses against them in a court of law.
3. End current oppression of men by taking away a man's rights as a citizen when a woman maliciously accuses him of domestic violence, child abuse or for other sham charges.
4. Recognize that falsely accusing a man of crime is as much of an offense as the crime for which the man is falsely accused. Sentence anyone making a false accusation
5. End the long-standing police practice of letting women go with a warning or ignoring their violations or crimes entirely while arresting or citing men for the same violations. Driving, walking, or living while male is not a crime.
6. End all police and court procedures that automatically assume that the male is responsible in cases of domestic violence.
ENTERTAINMENT
1. Balance women and men as murder victims, body count, and villains in movies and TV, and video games. Current badly disproportional display of men in negative media roles teaches prejudice against men.
2. Officially recognize our right to the remote control. We invented it. In fact, let's face it, we invented EVERYTHING. Be glad that we let you use our other inventions, but leave the remote control to us.
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November 05, 2009, 10:07:41 PM »
LMAO!!!
Ray, some of those are just as absurdly bad as the following statement:
"I'm sorry, but we'll have to let you go... it's been observed that 40% of your absences due to sickness happen on a Monday or Friday, which you're obviously using to extend your weekend."
I passed math.
And "
Make schools safe for male children's natural rambunctiousness
"??? WTF is that?? Did you die laughing as you were writing this drivel?? I died laughing READING it!
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BTW, for those new here that don't know us well yet, you're not only ABLE to disagree with all of us, you're ENCOURAGED to do so. Particularly true here in the Detention Hall where we have bitchfests.
We don't get all pissy because you hold a unique opinion.
Go ahead, tell me I'm a shithead. You will *not* get banned for it. Hell, on odd-numbered days I'll even agree with you!
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Quote from: RopeFiend on November 05, 2009, 11:04:45 PM
Hell, on odd-numbered days I'll even agree with you!
I once got tossed out of a casino during a dispute of what constituted an "odd" number.
---Ray
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Now you can tell guys to just grow a new penis:
Russian Doctors Grow a "New" Penis for Patient
Doctors have grown a new penis on a Russian boy's arm after he lost his old one in a bizarre accident. The 16-year-old, named only as Malik, lost his penis after receiving an electric shock while urinating on an electric wire. Surgeons grew a new penis on his arm and have now moved it to his groin. The Russian Clinical Hospital for Children surgeons created it by putting an empty latex cylinder in Malik's forearm and pumping a solution into it every day, reports Pravda. The cylinder grew on the boy's arm for 10 months until it took on the shape of a penis. Douglas Murray, a past president of the British Association of Plastic Surgeons, told Ananova this kind of plastic surgery was not uncommon. Mr Murray said: "He would probably be able to stand up and urinate instead of having to sit and do so."
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So much oppression in our culture is based on shame about sex: the oppression of women, of cultural minorities, oppression in the name of the (presumably asexual) family, oppression of sexual minorities. We are all oppressed. We have all been taught, one way or another, that our desires, our bodies, our sexualities, are shameful. What better way to defeat oppression than to get together in communities and celebrate the wonders of sex?
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Chicks Dig Jerks: A Series
January 29, 2010 by roissy
Every once in a while, when I sense the white knighting idealism beginning to take a stronger toehold on the thinking of some of my readers, I like to offer helpful reminders about the true nature of the creatures they are doomed to forever misunderstand.
In today’s special edition, a Seattle 19 year old pimp legally named Deshawn Cashmoney Clark was convicted for running a prostitution ring (hat tip: reader Master Dogen). This is not the most humorously banal angle of the story, though. No, the really SHOCKING, HEAVEN FORFEND surprise is how his harem of hookers is sticking by this uber-asshole’s side.
When that teen left the area in early 2008, Clark took up with a then-15-year-old girl he’d also met while attending school in West Seattle.
The two had been dating for several months when Clark propositioned her, demanding that she “walk the track” on Pacific Highway South and solicit payment for sex. While she did so, Clark would monitor her earnings by cell phone.
“If he felt that she was taking breaks unnecessarily, he yelled at her to get back out on the track and make him some money,” O’Donnell said in court documents. “At the end of each day, he returned to pick her up and took the money she had earned.”
The girl had run away from home while working for Clark, O’Donnell told the court. In one instance, the girl’s mother believed she had located her daughter. Instead, she found Clark, who, with a smile, issued her a warning.
“You will never find her,” Clark said, according to court documents. “I’ve got her so tight. She’s all mine.”
That girl — tattooed in Clark’s honor with the words “daddy’s little girl” — continued to support Clark throughout his trial, even as he married another woman.
Cashmoney wasn’t bluffing. He had her locked down, because she *wanted* to be locked down by him. This is a revelation about the female mind that escapes the logical thinking of so many men — why would a woman want to be with a man like Cashmoney? Why would any woman willingly offer herself as a rentable hole to a man hawking her goods to streetside bidders? Because women want to submit to a powerful man. Whether that power comes in the form of a crooning emo rock star, a CEO, or a pimp daddy with fists of fury doesn’t matter. All that matters is the male power, and the tingly feeling of submitting – wholly, completely – to that power. Every woman, deep DEEP inside, wants to be “daddy’s little girl”.
One admitted pimp and Street Mobb member, Mycah Johnson, described learning how to manipulate and intimidate young women from Clark.
“‘Cash’ showed me how to be a pimp,” Johnson wrote the court. “He would tell me where I should have (her) work and would explain how to use Craigslist to post her ads. He told me how to manage (her), specifically with respect to the money she earned — I was to keep all of it.”
Betas everywhere would do well to read the life stories of pimps. They have some useful advice. Naturally, the anti-game crowd will squawk “oh but these women were being manipulated!” They love that word manipulate. Cling to it like a newborn chimp to its mother’s furry belly. So much can be dismissed for consideration by shotgunning that word “manipulation” into any conversation about men and women they find distasteful. Unfortunately for them, it isn’t as readily dismissible as all that. Like hypnosis, you can only manipulate those who are manipulable. Those who, at some level, wish for the manipulation because they enjoy it. It is for this reason that the term manipulation is next to useless — apply a broad enough definition and you indict any goal-oriented communication as “manipulation”. Seduction? Manipulation. Sales? Manipulation. Politics? Manipulation. Convincing a buddy to see a great movie you just saw? Manipulation. No, Cashmoney’s honeys craved his manipulation. It TURNED THEM ON. How would he and his brethren pimps otherwise know how to “handle” women in the prime of their marketability? He knew because the evidence was staring him in the face — women who would fall for him, screw him, defend him, and yes… even love him.
The cries of “manipulation” ring louder. “Those women didn’t know what was happening to them!”, they will scream. Right-o. Funny thing is, the world is full to brimming with lovelorn betas attempting to manipulate women into sex and running headlong into a major road blockage. Their manipulations aren’t working. Some manipulations are clearly more effective than other manipulations. And which ones would those be? Well, the manipulations that turn women on!
Addressing North, defense attorney Alfoster Garrett, Jr., argued that, while his client profited from prostituting the teens, they were willing participants in the scheme.
Describing Clark as a “scapegoat,” Garrett noted that his client was 16 or 17 during at the time he was accused of prostituting the other youths.
This is one of those few times I agree the defense attorney has it exactly right. What else do you call an employee of Clark’s who cheers him on in court except a willing participant in his lifestyle and chosen career? Who you gonna believe, your lying eyes or a bunch of sociology trained femtards? It’s time to reform the law. Yes, as ringleaders and the administers of violence, pimps are more culpable than their whores, but whores share some of the blame. A fair justice system would punish all parties involved.
While he their circumstances may have made them susceptible to the pimp, Clark’s upbringing set him on a path to crime.
“He is a product of his environment,” Garrett said, asking that Clark receive an exceptionally short sentence.
Actually, his genes set him on his path of procuring limitless loyal poon. His environment only greased the skids.
North rejected the contention that the teens’ former involvement in prostitution evidenced a desire to continue in that life.
“I don’t find that the victims were willing participants,” North said. “It’s a complex relationship not unlike a domestic violence situation.”
Paging Rihanna. Still nurture pangs of love for your past lover Chris Brown, don’t you babe? I know, I understand. Roissy is here. No judgment. Pour out your heart. I won’t bite. Much.
North’s decision to impose the 17-year term followed a plea by Clark’s 19-year-old wife, Julata Clark.
Julata Clark, who gave birth to Deshawn Clark’s second child weeks before he was sentenced, said her husband is young and able to change his life.
The hilarity train keeps on rolling. Hey, Cashmoney had family values. The guy got married! Gotta love a wife with two kids storming court to support her husband’s pimping, carousing, and general assholery to the nth degree.
And society’s gotta love that this guy, at the ripe age of 19, already pumped out a couple of spawn while MBA toting 30 year olds examine their stock portfolios to gauge whether now is the right time to have that first autistic, underweight baby.
A parting thought. Owing to the rank stupidity or, more generously, the willful misinterpretation, of a minority of my readers who can’t wrap their minds around the simple concept of is-ought and who fervently believe (or secretly wish) my posts detailing in loving glory how much chicks dig jerks is tantamount to advocating every man set himself on the path of pimpdom, let me remind you that I am merely a courier of reality. I tell you how it is; what you do with that knowledge is up to you. The Pimp’s Way holds much truth about the nature of women in their fertile prime from which the average law-abiding man can personally benefit, but that truth does not need to come delivered in the same package to be effective in your own lives. You grasp the truth, and then you apply it to yourself and your dealings with women in the way that is most congruent with your values.
And to the all-too-predictable choir of cliche-spouters: No shit not *every* woman likes assholes. Do I need to put that addendum after every fucking sentence I write, or are you capable of discerning the all too obvious subtext? Here are my thoughts on the phenomenon of chicks digging jerks:
* Like most things about human nature, the female asshole-loving urge runs along a bell curve. To the far left we have women who would have nothing to do with assholes. To the far right we have Cashmoney’s honeys. Bunched in the middle are most women, who despite their protestastions to the contrary get tingly for an asshole, but won’t see it all the way to shacking up with a pimp.
* So many overaged yentas write to me telling me indignantly how they despise assholes and would never do what the girls featured in my posts do. I don’t have reason to doubt them… much, but I would remind them that the types of women who are most fond of assholes are exactly those women men most desire – that is to say, the young, supple babes with sex in their eyes and femininity in their souls. As women age out of attractiveness, they also (coincidentally!) age out of their attraction for assholes. Which brings me to…
* Roissy Maxim #71: In their sexual primes women’s attraction for assholes is at its strongest. You can catch a lot of hungry flies with honey, but shit attracts the most well-fed flies.
Tune in next week for another edition of “WOW, that’s news to me!”
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Quote from: RopeFiend on November 04, 2009, 08:19:52 PM
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All women are brainless cunts who, if left to their own designs, would make this planet as uninhabitable. We may as well let cute little bunny rabbits run amok without the benefit of predatory thinning. For this reason, all cunts must be subjugated and live forever "in their place."
Thanks for the warning. Now I know I don’t even need to bother.
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First they came for the Communists, and I didn’t speak up, because I wasn’t a Communist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I didn’t speak up, because I wasn’t a Jew.
Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn’t speak up, because I was a Protestant.
Then they came for me, and by that time there was no one left to speak up for me.
Rev Martin NIEMOLLER, 1945
(That part about Catholics doesn’t apply to me, though- Guess they already got me.)
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retake the white women
It is our god given right to abduct white women , children and men, who are race mixing. I target white women with black men whom i see on the streets/nightclubs. I use brutal rape as a means of inducing a transmarginal state, then i condition them as pavlov did his dogs. I am a novice at this and have only "practiced" on 3 women so far, but the results have been positive. The 3 women are now my white nationalist slaves, they serve the cause, and I will breed them with white men.
I am a peaceful man, but after reading Soul on ice by the I suck Cock! eldridge cleaver, i knew it was time to take serious action. I am taking back what the I suck Cock!/jew has stolen from me.
CAUTION; Brutality is called for, this is not for the weak minded, to gain obedience you must not hold back. read some braiwashing material and get yourself a bucket of guts.
http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=2625
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Quote from: Raymond Pist on November 05, 2009, 08:30:36 PM
CUSTODIAL ISSUES.
1. Require that anyone delivering a baby has authorization from BOTH PARENTS. No one should be forced to be a parent if they do not wish to.
This one always cracks me up.
Hey, guess what? If a penis goes into a vagina, you might get a baby!
Welcome to the real world, friendly lovers.
You just agreed to be a Mommy or a Daddy.
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Quote from: CreativeAmazon on March 11, 2010, 12:44:09 AM
Quote from: Raymond Pist on November 05, 2009, 08:30:36 PM
CUSTODIAL ISSUES.
1. Require that anyone delivering a baby has authorization from BOTH PARENTS. No one should be forced to be a parent if they do not wish to.
This one always cracks me up.
Hey, guess what? If a penis goes into a vagina, you might get a baby!
You just agreed to be a Mommy or a Daddy.
But the point is, if you are FEMALE, you still get to choose the option of not having a baby, even after the penis leaves your vagina. If, on the other hand, you are MALE, you no longer need to be consulted about whether or not you wish to be a daddy.
Glad you find this clear violation of men's rights to be so amusing though.
--Ray
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