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Student Union (MEMBERS ONLY) => Power Exchange: philosophy, psychology, theory, and practice => Topic started by: LittleRiver on January 03, 2016, 01:45:10 PM

Title: You can trust me, I just have RAPE fantasies
Post by: LittleRiver on January 03, 2016, 01:45:10 PM
So, a fair few men here don't seem to understand certain situations.  I mean, I really understand that you want to be totally sure you aren't talking to a man.  And TRUST me, it's a rape fantasy site, I understand you have rape fantasies....but, you know, boundaries.

This entire thing, it's a little different for women and TOTALLY different for women with RTS (which ALL of you should probably read into, just because you are hear).

You might not THINK you are being creepy....but really, you are being TOTALLY fucking creepy.

"I demand proof that you are a woman.  If you don't give me a pic, how do I know you aren't a 40 year old man?"

"How do I know you aren't a woman, pretending to be a man?"

"Because I'm telling you I'm a man."
"Well then send me a pic."

"If that gets out, it could cause me problems.  I could lose my job."


"And I couldn't?"
"Just send me a pic of your face."

"Sure, I'm going to give a man with RAPE FANTASIES, a picture they can use to recognize me."

"You can trust me."

"Of course, you have RAPE FANTASIES, AND I just met you online, AND you are too afraid to post YOUR pic.  That just breeds trust there."


"Fine, show me your tits then, to prove you aren't a man?"


"So you can post them all over the internet for the world over to see?"

"You can trust me, I won't do that."

"Sure, total stranger, I can trust you entirely."

"I just want proof you're not a man."

"I want proof you're not a woman."

"I'm not claiming to be a woman."

"I'm not claiming to be a man."


"What's the worst that could happen?"


"I don't know, maybe I could get RAPED...AGAIN."

"I won't RAPE you, you can trust me."

"Dude, you have RAPE fantasies.  that's already a strike against you in the trust department."


"So you've been raped before?"


"Yes."


"Tell me about it."


"I just met you!!!!!"

"What was it like?"

"Fuck off, that's what it was like."

"No need to get mad.  Change the subject.  Where do you live?"

"California."

"Cool.  What city?"

"California."

"Why won't you tell me the city?"

"You are on a RAPE FANTASY site."

"How do I know you're being honest?"

"Why does where I live matter to you?"

"I just want to know you're telling the truth.  I told you were I live."


"I don't care where you live."

"Well, I just want proof your are not a man.  What's the worst that could happen?"

"You could find me and RAPE me."

"Why are you so paranoid?"

"You are on a RAPE FANTASY site.  That shit is NEVER happening again."

"So tell me about it.  How did you get raped?"


"Excuse me?"

"I just want to know that you're not lieing about that too.  Tell me EXACTLY what happened."

"?!"

"No."


Have you told anyone here?"


"Yes."


"But you won't tell me?  Why?"


"I JUST MET YOU!!!!!"

"What's the big deal?"

"It's a little personal."

"I don't see what the big deal is, I'm not the one claiming to be a woman, claiming to live in California, and claiming to be raped."

"?!"

"What is the worst that can happen by just sending me a pic, telling me where you live, and giving me details about what happened to you?  It's not like I can track you down or anything.  What am I going to do, fly out to California?"

"You could find me and RAPE me.  I already know you have that fantasy."


"God, why are you bitches so paranoid?  I just want proof."
Title: Re: You can trust me, I just have RAPE fantasies
Post by: Kif on January 03, 2016, 11:21:53 PM
Great comebacks.  I never understood asking for personal information on a FANTASY site.  Even if you ARE a guy, who cares?  It's all fantasy, you know?  It's all in your head.  None of it is real.  And a pic proves nothing because I can find a thousand convincing pics in a minute.
Title: Re: You can trust me, I just have RAPE fantasies
Post by: Algore on January 03, 2016, 11:49:50 PM
ROFL! That was funny reading!

But yeah, totally understand not giving out details.
Title: Re: You can trust me, I just have RAPE fantasies
Post by: Clair_taboosub on January 04, 2016, 02:13:20 AM
If want absolute assurance, go out into the "real" world. Granted with modern science and medicine, you can't be too sure if the woman at the bar isn't packing heat lol.
Title: Re: You can trust me, I just have RAPE fantasies
Post by: SimplySivart on January 04, 2016, 07:47:30 PM
If want absolute assurance, go out into the "real" world. Granted with modern science and medicine, you can't be too sure if the woman at the bar isn't packing heat lol.

And depending on Country and local concealed carry laws, that can be a double entendre!
Title: Re: You can trust me, I just have RAPE fantasies
Post by: Fernly on January 04, 2016, 09:39:17 PM
Yeah I think it's safe to say you did the right thing by not trusting that one. First he nags you for pics to prove you're female, then he's calling you a paranoid bitch?! Idiot.
Title: Re: You can trust me, I just have RAPE fantasies
Post by: drakan on January 05, 2016, 12:18:18 AM
Yeah I think it's safe to say you did the right thing by not trusting that one. First he nags you for pics to prove you're female, then he's calling you a paranoid bitch?! Idiot.
I half think she made that up as an example though, I mean, I believe most people wouldn't go that far.

At the very least, someone smart enough to form full sentences and carry out a conversation like this to the end is probably also smart enough to know not to carry out this particular conversation to the end.
Title: Re: You can trust me, I just have RAPE fantasies
Post by: LittleRiver on January 05, 2016, 12:54:17 AM
Yeah I think it's safe to say you did the right thing by not trusting that one. First he nags you for pics to prove you're female, then he's calling you a paranoid bitch?! Idiot.
I half think she made that up as an example though, I mean, I believe most people wouldn't go that far.

At the very least, someone smart enough to form full sentences and carry out a conversation like this to the end is probably also smart enough to know not to carry out this particular conversation to the end.

Half Example and Half Composite.  I spend a LOT of time in chat, and it is a lot different than the RU boards.

Here on RU proper (and EVERY girl here can probably attest to it) we get crude, possibly threatening, if not outright disgusting PMs a few times a month.  That's just a part of being a woman on a Rape Site.  Sometimes you check your mail and a newbie has sent you something insulting and written like the misogynistic fantasy of your average 12 year-old.  

Those are easy, you can just ignore them and they will go away.

Chat is different, you are in there to hang with your friends & you get someone calling you a cunt because you don't want a Real Life meet up with a complete stranger.  And they don't seem to take rejection too well.  So while you try to politely give them the brush-off (or not so politely when they open with "hey bitch") they keep on screaming at you while you're trying to share baking recipes with jack.  Unlike the PMs, you can't ignore them.

And if not them, occasionally you get the clever ones that try to trick you into things like locations.  Let's play the 20 question game until they can pin down a city.  "What's the harm in giving me your phone number?  How can I use that to track you down?'  These guys, like the ones above, only get more demanding and meaner the more you leave your location to state only.

NO, I want to keep RU on RU ONLY.  It's NOT a suitable answer for some guys.  Why not give me your kik?  Why no your email?  Why not your skype?  YIM?  Hangouts?

"NO" is not a valid answer, at least not on a rape site.  For the cool guys, they respect a need for privacy.

There are a lot of people here that understand that a woman needs some anonymity on a site that can not only get HER in as much trouble if work, family, and friends found out as HIM, but also a site with potential predators.

Unfortunately there are also a LOT of guys here that do NOT appreciate a woman's right to say NO anywhere on a rape fantasy site.  The word "Fantasy" seems to be lost to them.

And if not the demands of RL Hook-ups and potentially problematic stalker-ish information, if they find out that you are a survivor then they instantly demand details.  Never mind that what happened is about as personal as personal can fucking get.  YOU, the VICTIM absolutely HAVE to tell them and they don't take rejection well.

Rejection of any kind, no matter how polite or flirty tends to piss them off.  And since your in chat, it gets CONSTANT.

And you know, it's a rape site, you expect questions about it.  MOST of the time it's "well, if you ever need to talk."  And that's cool.  You get it a lot when people know and the dudes that throw that out, Fucking Kudos to all of you!  THAT is the classy way to ask.  And it is usually done by people that have been around here for a while.

It's almost always the newbies that don't ask, they feel they can demand and bully you into telling them about the most horrible thing in your life.

So yeah, it is an example, BUT, it's an example rooted in more than a few experiences here.  Some that have gotten so frustrating that I've walked away from the site sick of Dicks.

Which leads me to another rant.  NO! I DON'T WANT TO SEE YOUR DICK! If that's your avatar you really need to reassess your personality.  Don't be so ashamed of yourself, I am sure you have much more to offer than your tool.  Be proud of yourself and remember, it's really the fingers that make the man.  HINT, HINT.  

Title: Re: You can trust me, I just have RAPE fantasies
Post by: Softnotweak on January 05, 2016, 09:41:34 AM
I fully agree!  I've already had to block someone because they're first message to me called me a whore in the first sentence! I understand the nature of the site buy there's also people who will not let up on asking the same questions over and over again even after a definite "I'm not comfortable talking about this to you"!
Title: Re: You can trust me, I just have RAPE fantasies
Post by: firelover on January 05, 2016, 07:00:08 PM
Re: proof

I've ran into lots of transgirls. The reason I'm paranoid is because it's happened many times before.

I'm also parinoid when people tell me they're "18" because I've been lies to many times before.
Title: Re: You can trust me, I just have RAPE fantasies
Post by: LittleRiver on January 05, 2016, 08:13:11 PM
Re: proof

I've ran into lots of transgirls. The reason I'm paranoid is because it's happened many times before.

I'm also parinoid when people tell me they're "18" because I've been lies to many times before.

OK, that makes sense, and I have noted that YOU don't have your pic posted.  I will note that in the male double standard that allows you to make demands you wouldn't appreciate and get offended when we don't respond to "Hey, bitch!"  Your paranoia and gender, combined with the theme of the site clearly set you above the same suspicions and give you the right to be demanding, confrontational, and demeaning to every women you meet online.  Furthermore, that paranoia supersedes our need for safety and anonymity that you feel the right to enjoy. 

You have convinced me, I will be giving you a pic, my IP address, all my social media pages, my home address, daily schedule, and the keys to where I live.  That way you can do anything illegal you want to me as well as satisfy your paranoia. 

And, while I am at it, my grandmother's contact information as well as my place of employment so that you may directly inform them of my presence on RU thus bypassing their need to search out the information that will destroy my life as I know it.

The difference is that, since you have a penis, the burden of proof is on the woman and your satisfaction supersedes my safety. 
Title: Re: You can trust me, I just have RAPE fantasies
Post by: Lyn on January 06, 2016, 09:14:03 AM
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Title: Re: You can trust me, I just have RAPE fantasies
Post by: firelover on January 08, 2016, 12:20:09 AM
I'm also parinoid when people tell me they're "18" because I've been lies to many times before.

You can be almost certain that any "Hi, I'm new here and happen to be an incredibly hot 18 year old!!!"  poster on here or a remotely comparable board is either a much older woman or - more likely - a man.
Some of them are also 15-17 year old girls. I know this for sure.

Re: proof

I've ran into lots of transgirls. The reason I'm paranoid is because it's happened many times before.

I'm also parinoid when people tell me they're "18" because I've been lies to many times before.

OK, that makes sense, and I have noted that YOU don't have your pic posted.  I will note that in the male double standard that allows you to make demands you wouldn't appreciate and get offended when we don't respond to "Hey, bitch!"  Your paranoia and gender, combined with the theme of the site clearly set you above the same suspicions and give you the right to be demanding, confrontational, and demeaning to every women you meet online.  Furthermore, that paranoia supersedes our need for safety and anonymity that you feel the right to enjoy.  

You have convinced me, I will be giving you a pic, my IP address, all my social media pages, my home address, daily schedule, and the keys to where I live.  That way you can do anything illegal you want to me as well as satisfy your paranoia.  

And, while I am at it, my grandmother's contact information as well as my place of employment so that you may directly inform them of my presence on RU thus bypassing their need to search out the information that will destroy my life as I know it.

The difference is that, since you have a penis, the burden of proof is on the woman and your satisfaction supersedes my safety.  
Since you're strawmanning me I'll just embrace it and say "in character."

That's right bitch, you're nothing but a fucktoy. Of course my satisfaction is more important than your safety.
Title: Re: You can trust me, I just have RAPE fantasies
Post by: LittleRiver on January 08, 2016, 07:58:00 PM
I'm also parinoid when people tell me they're "18" because I've been lies to many times before.

You can be almost certain that any "Hi, I'm new here and happen to be an incredibly hot 18 year old!!!"  poster on here or a remotely comparable board is either a much older woman or - more likely - a man.
Some of them are also 15-17 year old girls. I know this for sure.

Re: proof

I've ran into lots of transgirls. The reason I'm paranoid is because it's happened many times before.

I'm also parinoid when people tell me they're "18" because I've been lies to many times before.

OK, that makes sense, and I have noted that YOU don't have your pic posted.  I will note that in the male double standard that allows you to make demands you wouldn't appreciate and get offended when we don't respond to "Hey, bitch!"  Your paranoia and gender, combined with the theme of the site clearly set you above the same suspicions and give you the right to be demanding, confrontational, and demeaning to every women you meet online.  Furthermore, that paranoia supersedes our need for safety and anonymity that you feel the right to enjoy.  

You have convinced me, I will be giving you a pic, my IP address, all my social media pages, my home address, daily schedule, and the keys to where I live.  That way you can do anything illegal you want to me as well as satisfy your paranoia.  

And, while I am at it, my grandmother's contact information as well as my place of employment so that you may directly inform them of my presence on RU thus bypassing their need to search out the information that will destroy my life as I know it.

The difference is that, since you have a penis, the burden of proof is on the woman and your satisfaction supersedes my safety.  
Since you're strawmanning me I'll just embrace it and say "in character."

That's right bitch, you're nothing but a fucktoy. Of course my satisfaction is more important than your safety.


Just so we are clear, you ARE defending those who want "proof" through pics and information, are providing none of that on your own profile...and are playing the Straw man card for pointing out that double standard?

No age, no location, no pics on your profile, agree with those that demand such things as proof, and yet you still believe that pointing out that double standard is "strawmanning" the debate?

And here I was thinking that I could persuade some of the guys here that demanding personal identifying details was maybe a little bit one-sided.  So, to clarify again, it is FINE when you offer ZERO details about who YOU are  but wrong for women, SUPER wrong for women to make an argument for their safety, and a straw man when the double standard is pointed out?

And on top of that, it's OK to get right down to the misogyny when disagreed with by a member of the opposite sex?  Congrats, you just sort of proved my entire point.
Title: Re: You can trust me, I just have RAPE fantasies
Post by: IrishGirl on January 09, 2016, 12:55:23 AM
Not exactly what a new person wants to see.  Just saying.  Sort of Scary.
Title: Re: You can trust me, I just have RAPE fantasies
Post by: firelover on January 09, 2016, 02:28:22 AM
Yes it is a stawman because you're assuming I ask girls on this site for proof pics and personal info when that's not actually the case.

You're also saying I thought it was wrong for a woman to refuse such demands when that's not the case.

Not exactly what a new person wants to see.  Just saying.  Sort of Scary.
If it makes you feel better, we know of zero cases where a guy from this site has raped a girl from this site.
Title: Re: You can trust me, I just have RAPE fantasies
Post by: drakan on January 09, 2016, 09:53:00 AM
Not exactly what a new person wants to see.  Just saying.  Sort of Scary.
Don't worry, we're not all like that, at least most of the people I see posting seem to have common sense, and at least as far as an internet forum goes you can always just block and report people who are like this ;)
Title: Re: You can trust me, I just have RAPE fantasies
Post by: IrishGirl on January 09, 2016, 10:24:02 AM
I have already gotten a request to Skype.  But it wasn't a demand and it was a very polite back down after I rejected the idea.
Title: Re: You can trust me, I just have RAPE fantasies
Post by: firelover on January 09, 2016, 06:25:42 PM
In my experience if your chat/fantasy/RP/whatever actually makes your partner hot then they will reveal themselves to you voluntarily.
Yes this is my experience too.
Someone I was chatting with recently, I asked to see pictures of her because she mentioned that her boyfriend would take humiliating pictures of her and show them to his friends, and that turned her on. Shortly later I was fortunate enough to see such a picture.

There are some "fakes" out there I know that for sure. I mentioned before that I met one guy who was posing as his ex girlfriend online and trying to convince someone to fly over and rape her. If you think soneone's a fake, your best bet is to just not talk to them. Let them do what they do and engage people you're interested in instead.
Title: Re: You can trust me, I just have RAPE fantasies
Post by: Brokenwing on January 19, 2016, 06:21:07 PM
LittleRiver you have described this so well.

I too get the "Hi bitch" emails as well as many of the other things you described.

I'm very happy there are some good guys here that speak up sometimes to some of the "not so nice ones."

For myself and to maybe have a chance to help someone who has gone through some of the same things I have survived I have openly posted here about surviving and even healing from CSA but am on occasion as you described messaged with nothing first other than tell me what happened to you.  A. I already have posted what I'm comfortable posting and unless a person is truly challenged it's not hard here to figure out how to see all a person's posts.  B. If they really do want to understand you would think they could at least make a few posts, participate in some of the discussions and C. If ya really want to know something be specific and ask what you want to know, not just say "Tell me what happened to you."

If they really want to know things about people here why not just make some posts yourself. 

Great thread!
Title: Re: You can trust me, I just have RAPE fantasies
Post by: animalinstinct on January 23, 2016, 10:33:44 PM
I think it's outrageous that, as a male, no one sends me obscene messages...

On a more serious note this is the internet.  Give human beings anonymity and we can find ourselves doing all sorts of things we might not otherwise do.  The very thing that allows you to explore these fantasies or things that have happened is the very thing that facilitates and encourages this kind of lewd behavior.  I'm not sure if it's good or bad and to be honest I think it's neither but rather an obscure reflection of humanity and, as with everything in life, you take the good with the bad.  Also, this site is probably different things to different people.  I don't get the picture thing because there's no shortage of beautiful women scantily clad, often in acts of extreme debauchery, already available.  I guess if your talking to someone and it's personal and the picture is for you and you know them it's different.  I don't know and I don't care because that's not what this site is to me.

My point is, if a teenage guy comes on this site having a wank do you really expect them to treat it the same as a survivor who's maybe here for other reasons.  That teenage guy is maybe trying to work things out.  There's something fucked with masculinity in the Western World.  I'm not saying you shouldn't tell them where to go but I think there may be different perspectives and assumptions.
Title: Re: You can trust me, I just have RAPE fantasies
Post by: jt84 on March 30, 2016, 12:08:34 PM
Okay, I haven't been active on RU for a while because of personal and health issues, so I don't know if what's being talked about here is a *new* thing here.

I'm also a guy, so maybe wouldn't have gotten much of the same.

I *want* to say it boggles the mind - except it really doesn't, it's depressingly unsurprising - how many times, how many people behave in ways that are just, to me, inappropriate for a person with the least little bit of common fucking sense.

I'm not putting up a picture of my face, or sending it to you, unless I *know* you and have known you long enough, and know you well enough, that I know it's not going to get out and ruin my career.  I wouldn't expect that from you, either.  Yes, some people out there are fake, using pictures of models or girls they know and trying to get attention or get their personal purpose met.  Some are underage.

So if Cyber or RP is your thing, do it with people whose behavior and communication indicates a higher age and maturity - full sentences, good grammar, adult vocabulary, etc.  Be cautious and try to ask "you *are* over 18, right?"  And don't play scenes that touch on things like pedo or snuff with a random person you've just met on chat or PM, because you could be touching off a major can of worms (not my type of scene, personally, anyway - but I'm making a point, dammit).  Take some precautions, if you do these things, but also just apply the same damn rules to them that you apply to yourself.

And if you're someone who shares pics of yourself openly, maybe you have a little more leeway to say "I'd like to see X" but it's like anything else these days - you have no fucking right to demand someone give you something.

When I was younger there'd be a part of me that would go "people don't *really* do that, do they?"  Now I just go "...goddammit, you fuckers, you should fucking know better."
Title: Re: You can trust me, I just have RAPE fantasies
Post by: Nyx on March 30, 2016, 11:02:43 PM
It's not new here. I remember reading one of Ray's posts when I first joined that was about this same topic but from his perspective. He basically said that we should be willing to give up our pictures just because guys want them.   

I post mine because everyone at my job knows very well that I'm into kinky sex and while I will eventually have a career, no one is going to give a shit what I'm into when I'm not at work. I'm also not worried about someone coming and finding me. They'd be dead before they got through the doorway. But some people aren't psychotic like I am.

Anywho...I don't get a lot of picture demands but I do get messages where guys will just assume I want them. They'll jump right in like "fucking whore...blah blah" or they'll refer to me as their "rape buddy". And that's why I have a Louisville slugger with 10" nails pounded through the end. Actually it's not, but it serves many purposes.
Title: Re: You can trust me, I just have RAPE fantasies
Post by: jt84 on April 01, 2016, 11:10:59 AM
I'm very grateful for some of the pictures you've shared, Nyx.  You've warmed a few lonely nights, I don't mind admitting.

I suppose it boils down to this.  Shitheads are out there.  If you are not one of them, and not used to them, it can be hard to believe some of these things really happen.  If you are used to them, it is like I said; "Goddammit, you fuckers, you *should* know better."

How to deal with them?  They generally don't realize how shitty they're being, and they justify it.  And let me be clear; some of the reasons aren't completely shitty ones.  You're straight and you want to make sure you're actually dealing with a straight woman, and not a balding, middle-aged, basement dwelling creep?  Okay, you know, I can understand that.  And maybe they have a right to ask and aren't shitty to *ask* for a picture.  But when that "ask" turns into "demand" things change.  When they refuse to take no for an answer, they are being shitty.  And when they start harassing you for it, they're being complete and total wastes of carbon.

And when they hold a double standard out - demanding but refusing to give back - they are scum.  I don't post pictures, generally - I recently put one of my torso up, but I do not include my face because I have a job where it could come back to haunt me someday.  And a woman is just as likely to have such a job.  So if I'm going to RP but only want to RP with a "verified" woman - well, I'm gonna have to be very very very picky and only get ladies like Nyx, here, and that's just the price of doing business.

Honestly, my opinion/perspective on these matters is one that I consider fairly based on common sense.  It's infuriating seeing so many people *not getting it* and it's like "you guys... you're fucking things up for the rest of us by being shitheads, stop it."  Because then women have to be cautious about all guys, (see: #notallmen) because even if not all guys are that way, enough are that way and it has made many women feel concerned, cautious, hesitant, skeptical - however you think the appropriate terminology is for the situation.

Of course, there's a "notallwomen/yesallwomen" corollary to discuss if I'm being fair, but that's not what's at issue in this topic.

All of you, all of us, are right to be cautious.  In general and online in particular, and on a board like this in specific.  And the kind of shit you ladies have divulged here just proves/demonstrates it.
Title: Re: You can trust me, I just have RAPE fantasies
Post by: Nyx on April 01, 2016, 01:54:03 PM
Well thanks :)

I think it's nice for all the ladies to see that there are some nice guys on here. And we appreciate you.

Just in case any of the shitheads are reading this, a lot of us do send photos. The secret is if you want them, DON'T ask for them. That's why some guys on here have pictures of all of the ladies hahaha.

If anyone ever wants to know for sure that I'm a woman, they can ask Algore. He's seen me. Everywhere. :)
Title: Re: You can trust me, I just have RAPE fantasies
Post by: Desgi on April 07, 2016, 05:16:01 PM
Well now.. I dinnae post too often do ya ken.

But here's my two cents on the subject at hand.

Yeah..... A LOT of assholes on the net, and on a board like this given the generally taboo nature of the subject matter, .... there's theoretically gonna be a higher concentration of them at any given point in time, hopefully most of em don't stick around too long though. Especially in the face of reasonable rejection.

It is an unfortunate cost of being active in chat on the internet, assholes abound, (me for example :P ) Thankfully there's lots and lots of members here who aren't assholes.
So the best ya can do is try to deal with the non assholes and hope the assholes don't piss ya off too badly.

As to the whole "tell me what happened to you" thing. I am afraid I don't understand it. I keep the lines between fantasy and reality pretty sharply defined in my own head, and I don't WANT to try and get off to someone's story of really getting raped. I'd listen if asked (and I have been asked a couple times IRL.) But not for strokin purposes, that crosses my mental boundaries and is something I find a bit worrying.

Gods... that last paragraph makes me sound like an condescending ass, can't really see a better way to word things though. So as I mentioned above..ich bin ein arschloch.

REALLY hope that's right. :P

Anyhoo that's my take on things. And now I think you can see perhaps, why I dinnae post so often.

Title: Re: You can trust me, I just have RAPE fantasies
Post by: Dire Wolf on April 08, 2016, 10:24:30 PM
This is only tangentially along the same lines, but you still might find it interesting.

I used to be very involved in Second Life, which can be a really exciting place for rape fantasists and sex lovers in general. I was “married” there three times and even had a RL hookup with a woman I met there.

My last hot relationship about three years ago was with a French woman. We hit it off immediately and fell deep in love. Her friends became my friends and vice versa. For more than a year, we had wonderful times in and out of bed. Eventually we had a huge wedding attended by at least 20 people from all over the world. I moved into her lovely house and soon she was pregnant with our baby.

But as sometimes happens in Second Life, things got TOO intense. I had seen it before and even experienced it myself. SL can become more important than RL and RL suffers because of it.

She wrote a long letter detailing that very phenomenon and said goodbye to all of her SL friends and lovers. The biggest shock was she signed it Gilles, a man's name. I'm certain that jaws dropped all over Europe and North and South America. We were all astounded, me especially. And to this day, as far as I know, she has never made contact with any of her dear friends, ex-lovers, doms or even her husband.

My second-biggest surprise in all of this was that I felt no anger whatsoever at having been duped like that. It taught me that connecting with another human being, even falling in love with one, is not really dependent on gender at all. Obviously, this can only happen through the anonymity of the Internet, but it CAN happen. Love is love. And it's pure.

Gilles apparently was born into the wrong gender because he/she was the consummate female. To this day I remain fascinated by her/him and would like nothing more than to just talk to her/him about all that happened.

I'm not sure this applies very well to what's being discussed in this thread. It's just something interesting that happened to me and it taught me a lesson I still value.

PS: I've never had a gay impulse in my life and still don't. If you have any doubt, read my stories in the RU library.  :P
Title: Re: You can trust me, I just have RAPE fantasies
Post by: Mindfucker on August 31, 2016, 06:35:02 PM
I know that most forums discourage bringing old posts up, but I feel this one needs a bump.  I am male, and I am still somewhat astonished that women visit this site at all, let alone make meaningful contributions.  But I appreciate that they do, and I would like to encourage them to stick around.  Seems that even a woman with a rape fantasy still appreciates (and DESERVES) some respect.   
Title: Re: You can trust me, I just have RAPE fantasies
Post by: KgC120 on September 19, 2016, 08:27:44 AM
Great thread, LittleRiver. As soon as I joined RU, I got several solicitations that immediately started off rude and insulting. "Hey cunt slut, where do you live?" "So how do you like your pussy shredded?"

I also agree with: Brokenwing, draken, animalinstinct, plesuregrunt, Nyx, jt84, Desgi, Direwold and Mindfucker. These are the reasonable people. The jerks won't even bother reading past the first post because they do feel entitled to act this way. "It's the bitches problem, not theirs if they can't handle it." they justify.
Title: Re: You can trust me, I just have RAPE fantasies
Post by: Houdgreep on February 18, 2017, 12:15:07 PM
Oh yes, the eternal (and infernal) demand for pictures. I've had my fair share of contacts breaking off to deadly insults (just recently one found it necessary to call me "Another person to sadistically jerk my heart.") just because I didn't send a picture on request.

I also understand where it's coming from. I've read my share of "how to stay safe in dating" advice, and most state that someone who doesn't give pictures must be unreliable. The most humorous one was where the next line after that was: "Never give out pictures." How on earth two people are ever going to find a click if they follow both pieces of advice is a complete mystery to me. :emot_laughing.gif: :emot_rotf.gif:

My own way is straightforward, I generally do not ask for pictures, I advice against it, and I do not give them out. There is one exception to this, I sometimes get the request for degrading comments on a person's looks. If that is not accompanied by a picture, I ask how I can comment on her looks if I don't know what she looks like in the first place. ;D

Generally, for meeting, I follow the old rule of the Resistance and Warsaw Pact dissidents: Have a drink in a public place.

First time messages: Always a difficult subject. I generally have given up on messaging unless following up on some forum
thread. Just doesn't work, practically all friendships I have came from her messaging me or a thread turning into a friendship. It's interesting to see how people indeed send the "slut whore" routine on such groups. Maybe they take the desire a bit too literally. Of course I've seen my share of profiles stating: "Don't say anything nice to me. I'm a slut to be abused." OK, that may be different. But where does it say if someone has rape fantasies that she wants to be insulted and raped by every guy on the planet?

Just a bit of random rants about these two subjects and maybe some tidbits someone may find useful. My sympathies to all the ladies getting loads of abusive comments. :(
Title: Re: You can trust me, I just have RAPE fantasies
Post by: technodivinitas on May 20, 2017, 06:46:32 PM
This topic's kinda near and not-so-dear to my heart, because while I don't get a lot of net requests for "show me your picture" and "where do you live?" I get peer pressure toward in in my performing career. Here's the thing- In the aether, I am the redheaded toon y'all are slowly getting to know. That's me. That's my face, those are my tits. yes they're made out of pixels, but why should that matter to anyone? If you're worried I might be a man, well.. you can listen to my performances, live, and I'd have to be a seriously talented female impersonator to pull that off. ;)  But I still get pressure to "get real" with people. "Do you webcam?" Nope. "Why won't you show us your face?" Because the person behind the keys has her own life, on that side of the keys, and wants to keep it that way.

As to the transgender point- I met a guy- serious freaky bad rapist monstrosity of a guy, and he and I hit it off. We dated virtually for a few weeks, and then he let me know there was something really important h wanted to discuss, and he seemed worried. And that freaked me out a bit, but I'm cool- we can talk, right? So we talked.  I said, look- it's all good, but I'm sure I can take it. What- are you going to tell me you used to be a woman or something?

...

He fell silent. There was a long pause. And then he started laughing his ass off. Turns out that was pretty much exactly the deal. He was born female. Trans male, pre-op.  I was a little startled by the news, but honestly, how could I do anything but support him wanting of himself what I wanted for him too?  I get that not everyone is going to be cool with that, in their own lives, but still. Unless you are actually planning to meet and have sex with somebody, what difference does the pound of flesh and six pints of blood matter?  If someone's well-spoken, grooves to the same stuff I groove to, and doesn't behave like an ass, then if they tell me their dick's 9 inches, why should I question?  (No- I don't wanna see your dicks, guys. Seriously. Unless it's a REALLY pretty dick. And awesomely pierced. :D )

Title: Re: You can trust me, I just have RAPE fantasies
Post by: Nyx on May 20, 2017, 06:50:21 PM
But we do have a REALLY good thread where all the men go to post dick pics :)
Title: Re: You can trust me, I just have RAPE fantasies
Post by: technodivinitas on May 20, 2017, 07:00:35 PM
LINK! :D
Title: Re: You can trust me, I just have RAPE fantasies
Post by: gscmar64 on May 20, 2017, 09:00:51 PM
LINK! :D

http://ravishu.com/forums/index.php?topic=34960.0

See we some of us can be nice! please remember we don't mind if you reciprocate  just love every time some one does!
Title: Re: You can trust me, I just have RAPE fantasies
Post by: technodivinitas on May 21, 2017, 02:04:20 AM
LINK! :D

http://ravishu.com/forums/index.php?topic=34960.0

See we some of us can be nice! please remember we don't mind if you reciprocate  just love every time some one does!

Awwww!  but I have no dick to send a pic of!  :'(
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Title: Re: You can trust me, I just have RAPE fantasies
Post by: gscmar64 on May 21, 2017, 01:33:04 PM
Start a topic called "Chest Huggers!"   :emot_rotf.gif: not a guy on site would refuse to look at them!

(The above is a comical comment and not a serious suggestion! Asking for certain things borders on Harassment and I try never to cross that line!)
Title: Re: You can trust me, I just have RAPE fantasies
Post by: Nyx on May 21, 2017, 01:42:28 PM
Start a topic called "Chest Huggers!"   :emot_rotf.gif: not a guy on site would refuse to look at them!

(The above is a comical comment and not a serious suggestion! Asking for certain things borders on Harassment and I try never to cross that line!)

Why are you the sweetest!!??
Title: Re: You can trust me, I just have RAPE fantasies
Post by: gscmar64 on May 21, 2017, 02:07:26 PM
Start a topic called "Chest Huggers!"   :emot_rotf.gif: not a guy on site would refuse to look at them!

(The above is a comical comment and not a serious suggestion! Asking for certain things borders on Harassment and I try never to cross that line!)

Why are you the sweetest!!??

A mother, five sisters, girlfriend and her two sisters and mother! it's either sweet of in surgery. Guess you know what i chose!
Title: Re: You can trust me, I just have RAPE fantasies
Post by: jt84 on May 21, 2017, 09:52:22 PM
Start a topic called "Chest Huggers!"   :emot_rotf.gif: not a guy on site would refuse to look at them!

(The above is a comical comment and not a serious suggestion! Asking for certain things borders on Harassment and I try never to cross that line!)

Why are you the sweetest!!??

A mother, five sisters, girlfriend and her two sisters and mother! it's either sweet of in surgery. Guess you know what i chose!

Yeah... pretty sure I'd rack up a huge surgical bill...
Title: Re: You can trust me, I just have RAPE fantasies
Post by: Willowy on May 22, 2017, 08:36:31 AM
Yeah... I have encountered the "you're a man if you don't share a pic" attitude. I've also been told "you should consider these women suspect as there's no proof they're women" and it's like... why does it even matter? Of course, I may be stupid: I take people at face value until I learn otherwise. For example, I knew a guy once, and he seemed to be an okay person. Then I witnessed him making a story request, and when it was accepted, he hounded the poor author so much about whether it was done or not that the author left the site rather than deal with him anymore. Didn't impress me much.

I'm terrified that sharing pictures will just get me crap I don't want to deal with, or incite someone to rape me. And I feel like my looks got me raped once already. Sure, I could take a headshot. Will it stop there? No, it'll probably go onto "i want nudes" and more. And I don't think I'm ugly. But what if you do? Why would I want to hear that you think I'm ugly or not worth fucking because I don't meet your standard of attractiveness?
Title: Re: You can trust me, I just have RAPE fantasies
Post by: gscmar64 on May 22, 2017, 09:31:22 AM
Yeah... I have encountered the "you're a man if you don't share a pic" attitude. I've also been told "you should consider these women suspect as there's no proof they're women" and it's like... why does it even matter? Of course, I may be stupid: I take people at face value until I learn otherwise. For example, I knew a guy once, and he seemed to be an okay person. Then I witnessed him making a story request, and when it was accepted, he hounded the poor author so much about whether it was done or not that the author left the site rather than deal with him anymore. Didn't impress me much.

I'm terrified that sharing pictures will just get me crap I don't want to deal with, or incite someone to rape me. And I feel like my looks got me raped once already. Sure, I could take a headshot. Will it stop there? No, it'll probably go onto "i want nudes" and more. And I don't think I'm ugly. But what if you do? Why would I want to hear that you think I'm ugly or not worth fucking because I don't meet your standard of attractiveness?

Hear you and understand loud and clear! That's why before i start any type of personal contact with people online I always make it known that I have no ulterior motives and when it comes to posting to me, say, show only what you feel comfortable saying or posting.
Title: Re: You can trust me, I just have RAPE fantasies
Post by: Jed on May 22, 2017, 09:57:36 AM
Yeah... I have encountered the "you're a man if you don't share a pic" attitude. I've also been told "you should consider these women suspect as there's no proof they're women" and it's like... why does it even matter? Of course, I may be stupid: I take people at face value until I learn otherwise. For example, I knew a guy once, and he seemed to be an okay person. Then I witnessed him making a story request, and when it was accepted, he hounded the poor author so much about whether it was done or not that the author left the site rather than deal with him anymore. Didn't impress me much.

I'm terrified that sharing pictures will just get me crap I don't want to deal with, or incite someone to rape me. And I feel like my looks got me raped once already. Sure, I could take a headshot. Will it stop there? No, it'll probably go onto "i want nudes" and more. And I don't think I'm ugly. But what if you do? Why would I want to hear that you think I'm ugly or not worth fucking because I don't meet your standard of attractiveness?

Everything will be just fine Willowy if you send me a pic of yourself where you wrote 'I belong to Jed' in bright red lipstick across your bare breasts.

I'm joking of course!

Here's what I think.  Any guy that won't talk to you unless you send him pics isn't worth talking to.  If you do like someone and decide later you want to, well go ahead and do it if it feels safe.  But never let anyone brow beat you into sending pics.
Title: Re: You can trust me, I just have RAPE fantasies
Post by: Willowy on May 22, 2017, 10:21:18 AM
...I'm more likely to write that I belong to Nyx or Brittany. :-P
Title: Re: You can trust me, I just have RAPE fantasies
Post by: Nyx on May 22, 2017, 10:39:58 AM
...I'm more likely to write that I belong to Nyx or Brittany. :-P

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Title: Re: You can trust me, I just have RAPE fantasies
Post by: Brittanyishere on May 22, 2017, 10:41:56 AM
...I'm more likely to write that I belong to Nyx or Brittany. :-P

That's so sweet hun. But you should really be careful what you wish for.
Title: Re: You can trust me, I just have RAPE fantasies
Post by: Jed on May 22, 2017, 11:13:31 AM
...I'm more likely to write that I belong to Nyx or Brittany. :-P

Just make sure you know which color lipstick to use for the writing.  Nyx probably doesn't care, but Brittany is apt to get out various pain causing devices if she doesn't approve and scream something like "Pink!!!????  What were you thinking!!!!????"
Title: Re: You can trust me, I just have RAPE fantasies
Post by: Nyx on May 22, 2017, 11:15:26 AM
You know us too well, Jed
Title: Re: You can trust me, I just have RAPE fantasies
Post by: Brittanyishere on May 22, 2017, 11:29:11 AM
...I'm more likely to write that I belong to Nyx or Brittany. :-P

Just make sure you know which color lipstick to use for the writing.  Nyx probably doesn't care, but Brittany is apt to get out various pain causing devices if she doesn't approve and scream something like "Pink!!!????  What were you thinking!!!!????"

OMG Jed how could you say such a thing!  You make me sound like some sadistic bitch and.... well.... OK you got me there. But still it's not very nice to say.
Title: Re: You can trust me, I just have RAPE fantasies
Post by: darklord on May 22, 2017, 12:46:56 PM
Totally distasteful.  Everyone knows Brittany prefers Red  :emot_kiss.gif:
Title: Re: You can trust me, I just have RAPE fantasies
Post by: Jed on May 22, 2017, 08:52:46 PM
...I'm more likely to write that I belong to Nyx or Brittany. :-P

Just make sure you know which color lipstick to use for the writing.  Nyx probably doesn't care, but Brittany is apt to get out various pain causing devices if she doesn't approve and scream something like "Pink!!!????  What were you thinking!!!!????"

OMG Jed how could you say such a thing!  You make me sound like some sadistic bitch and.... well.... OK you got me there. But still it's not very nice to say.

There's nothing more fun than taming a sadistic bitch. . . . . .
Title: Re: You can trust me, I just have RAPE fantasies
Post by: IrishGirl2.0 on February 15, 2018, 05:15:26 PM
So, my new approach is to just put the name of every guy here that threatened me or tried to bully me into revealing names and locations on my profile.

It may be the best way to just handle this.
Title: Re: You can trust me, I just have RAPE fantasies
Post by: Jed on February 15, 2018, 05:17:57 PM
All girls should consider that.
Title: Re: You can trust me, I just have RAPE fantasies
Post by: lostanna on February 16, 2018, 01:15:08 PM
not a bad plan, can we gives scores and have a dickhead of the month comp?
Title: Re: You can trust me, I just have RAPE fantasies
Post by: Psiberzerker on February 16, 2018, 05:49:53 PM
Probably one of the reddest of red flags is "You can trust me..."  It means pretty much the same thing as "I don't want to sound like a sexual predator, but;"  Everything after that is a lie, otherwise they wouldn't preface it with a disclaimer.  "I'm not lying, you are!"
Title: Re: You can trust me, I just have RAPE fantasies
Post by: IrishGirl2.0 on March 07, 2018, 05:34:28 PM
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(Moderator hat off) I'm a high-functioning autistic. Much of humor and sarcasm is either lost on ME, or wounds me more deeply that it was intended to. As such, it's my job in life to piss people off. I can clear my throat, and get death threats... I simply lack the mental ability to judge the impact of my words, upon others - unless they tell me clearly. (But at age 12, I could tell you how to spell deoxyribonucleic acid, and explain what it was. Today, I can explain a Higgs Boson particle, without googling it.)

So, I try for 4 years to get my wife on here. Finally got her on, her own acct... IMMEDIATELY people (men, mostly) started pinging her, asking questions, offering dick-pics, etc. She lasted about 2 days, hasn't been back. ...That I know of, anyway.

Summary: I understand what "men" are blamed for. I understand. And... Like many others here, have wrestled with exactly what my "RavishU personality should look like". And I understand that those who arrived here "with a mad on", sometimes will try to blame US. (In my best Forrest Gump voice, "That's all I have to say about that...")

I'm doing it on my profile page...but if someone were to start a thread in Detention Hall for it, I'd chime in.

But I totally understand the dick pic thing...that irritates the hell out of me too, but I don't consider it dangerous, or at least not as much as the demands for hook ups, pictures, location, personal information.  I look at the dick pic thing as more of misplaced pride.  You have a penis, great, bully for you, way to fucking go.  I'm not dating you, so it's not my penis to play with, and, seriously, if you think showing it to me is going to change things you're fucking delusional mate, really they all look relatively the same none of them are really attractive.

The offers are just irritating though.  It's a no, I really don't want to see it....

But the unsolicited dick pic, that is pictures of your dick that are forced on me well, my new response to that looks very much like this:

LOL!!!!!

I'm thinking that maybe it's the best response to give, even if they are hung like a horse.  Unsolicited dick pics deserve nothing less. 
Title: Re: You can trust me, I just have RAPE fantasies
Post by: Psiberzerker on March 07, 2018, 06:13:22 PM
I just have to remind guys that dick pics tend to work on gay men.  That usually takes care of it. 
Title: Re: You can trust me, I just have RAPE fantasies
Post by: Lois on June 07, 2018, 12:12:49 AM
My response is "So you have what looks like a dick.  Am I supposed to be impressed?"
Title: Re: You can trust me, I just have RAPE fantasies
Post by: IrishGirl2.0 on June 16, 2018, 11:25:46 AM
I think I'm going to take a picture of my boyfriend's taint and give it to everyone that opens by demanding that shit.